You've probably sat at a dining table, fork held above a lovely piece of meat, and contemplated, "Is this right?"

In an age where every meal we consume intersects with debates on environmental impact, animal rights, and personal health, it's hard to avoid pondering the ethical dimensions of our dietary choices. Some argue that meat is essential for optimal health, while others champion plant-based diets as the pinnacle of nutrition.

So, where does that leave you? If you predominantly consume meat for its health benefits, can it be deemed morally acceptable?

Join us as we delve deep, peeling back the layers of ethics, health, and humanity's ancient craving for meat. Gear up to analyze, introspect, and perhaps, rethink your choices at the dinner table.

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(00:00:00) Introduction

(00:09:82) Sharing Experiences

(00:48:30) Fitness Goals

(01:30:89) Planning Exercises

(02:15:31) Reading Books

(03:24:46) Training Plan

(04:35:62) My Friend Caro

(04:54:93) Creating Food Plans

(05:29:82) Counting Proteins

(06:22:44) Is Being Vegan Healthy?

(07:16:48) Environmental Factors

(08:33:13) Being a Meat Eater

(08:47:77) Say NO to SOY!

(09:23:62) Is Eating Organic Safe?

(10:59:83) What The Problem Really Is

(11:59:89) It’s Your Choice!

(12:58:11) My Future Plan

(13:07:08) Low Cost Quality Food

(13:50:47) Balancing a Healthy Meal

(14:09:74) Should You Eat Meat?

(14:55:24) What I Want To Do

(15:04:04) Future Updates

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Built to Move by Kelly and Julie Starrett

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Hi guys, Sam Fury here with another episode of Survival Fitness Plan, where you can out-run,out-fight, and out-live the majority of the world's population.

Got a haircut, as you can see. I like to get it nice and short because it's my final days in Colombia, and I don't like getting haircuts in the United States or Australia or any place because they charge way too much, and all I do is shave it.

And it's nice and quick because I don't like hairdressers. I know a lot of people that do, and I'm not one of them, I don't find it relaxing at all. So there you go, I got a haircut, and I get it nice and short like this, so then hopefully it'll last me at least two months, or usually three, sometimes I can even drag it out to four or five, without having to get another one, which is pretty cool.

So for those of you that listen regularly, you'll know that when I first got to Santa Manta, one of my goals was to be able to do muscle ups. And yesterday I did three, so I was pretty happy with that. And the funny thing was, I was actually really tired, because I didn't sleep well the night before, and I just felt lethargic, and I thought, ah, there's no way I'm going to be able to do one, but I'll try it anyway.

And I think that what happened is, because I was tired, I was like, I better concentrate on technique, otherwise I've got no chance. As opposed to just pure strength. So, I concentrate on technique, and technique's a lot of it. So it's good if, next time I go to do them, I'll keep that in mind. But, I don't think I'll be able to try again for a long time.

Because tomorrow, I'm getting a new tattoo. And it's on my back. So I won't be able to do any back work. I'll just have to do sprints. I won't be able to swim. I did sprints this morning. So I'm just gonna have to do nothing. Tomorrow I'll go for a swim. And then the following day, cause I'll, it'll be the day after the tattoo, I'll do sprints.

Maybe tomorrow I'll do strength. And then the day after, oh no, cause I wanna swim. I wanna swim. So tomorrow I'll go swimming. Because it'll be my last opportunity to swim in a while. So tomorrow I'll swim. Then the day after I'll have to do sprints. And then Sunday, I'll, I could just like do a lot of stretching, I guess. As long as it's not my back. Do my splits and that.

And then Monday Sunday, Monday I'm flying. So I won't be able to do anything. I'll be able to stretch or whatever. So that'll be my day off as opposed to Sunday, which is usually my day off. So anyway, so that's that.

Today I was gonna do an episode about the updated survival fitness nutrition plan, but it's not quite finished yet. And I've been reading lots of books and all this stuff and blah blah blah, and then also, Peter Attia has just come out with a new book, so I wanted to see what he's got to say about stuff as well.

But I'll do what I've got so far, and then and then put that up and online. And then I'll still reading this other book called Forever Young. I'm a pretty slow reader. It takes me at least a few weeks to read a book, even if I'm really into it. Because I don't read that often, maybe just about 10 or 20 minutes a day.

And then I want to get through that and then I'll start Attia’s. And then also Kelly Starrett has a new book coming out called Built to Move. And so I'm assuming because of that, all the mobility will change. But the great news is, because if you're in the app, It'll all just get changed automatically when it's all ready to go.

So there you go.

Yeah, I'm in week two of my splits training as well. Not that split training is ever going to be a part as well from this plan, but I was just online and I saw this thing and this guy was like learning to do the splits in four weeks and I've never been able to do the splits. I've never really had a reason to, but I just thought it was interesting.

So I like went in and he uses a lot of hyperbolic stretching which is cool. So it's good to do that. I don't know if I'll even, I'll give it a month, maybe even five weeks. I don't know if I'll be able to do the splits after a month, like he suggests, but I'm getting pretty close. Especially front splits, I'm getting pretty close, but back side splits, I'm not sure.

But I still have another two weeks to do it, so there you go. At the very least, I've learned some stuff, like bouncing, stretching, and stuff. I don't know if I'll actually use it.

I am very, very keen to get into Built to Move by Kelly Starrett. Starrett, I don't know how to say his name. And actually, I've been listening to a podcast with Tim Ferriss who's got him on the show. He'll probably be on a few people's podcasts because these people bring out books and they do the podcast circuit, right? And they, I listen to all the podcasts that are in this field, so. I'll probably hear him once or at least once on Tim Ferriss's and if I'm not too slow I'll be able to catch him on others as well.

But anyway. So today instead what I want to talk about is this discussion I had with my friend who I'm working with here. Her name is Caro. She's Aventuras.

Here’s the thing, when I'm making these food plans and I've decided that I need to reincorporate meat, because of all the new information I've learnt lately meat is very important, and or at least I mean, you don't need meat, so you can be a vegan and still do it, but you won't be optimal.

You can get complete proteins, right, and you can get complete proteins from veg from being a vegan but you gotta eat a lot, you gotta consume a lot more calories to do it. So. I thought, well, I don't want to consume too many calories because then you're not going to be able to get enough, or you could just take a lot of supplements, which, anyway,

So I've been making this food like a kind of a meal plan, right, and you need at least if you're training in this fitness plan, you're going to need at least, at the very least, 1.5 grams of protein a day preferably two, so we put two protein, two grams of protein per, not per day, per kilo per day, or one gram per pound per day, right, if you're active, which we are, and And that, so for me, that amounts to about 120 grams of protein. Two per kilo, I'm about 60 kilos, more or less.

I don't know exactly, I don't weigh myself very often. But I always assume I'm around 60. Maybe I'm a little bit more now because I think I've put on some muscle. But so let's say I'm eating 120 grams of protein a day. And that's actually quite a lot. That's like, I need, so every meal I need to get at least 40 grams of protein.

40 grams of protein is not an easy thing to come across without meat. So, but then, alright, so one of the reasons I was a vegetarian, almost vegan for a while is, I had three reasons. These are the three reasons. First of all, it was, I was, I thought it was healthier, right? But now I know it's not. It is healthier in a way that you eat a lot more vegetables, assuming that you do do that.

Like a lot of vegans. They can be vegan and just eat loads of wheat. Right? And you can still be a vegan just eating loads of wheat, but it's not, it's not healthier, right? The thing is you can be super healthy on a carnivore diet if you eat a lot of vegetables as well. So that's the key.

You've got to eat a lot of vegetables no matter what diet you're on or what food eating regime you use. But, so I thought going vegan was easier. it was healthier and it's, it's not. So if you're going to eat a lot of vegetables anyway, regardless of what you do, then eating meat proteins is better.

Second is because of an environmental factor. And I still do consider that. But there's some issues with that too, because you can be a meat eater and still be good to the environment. And when I say environment, I mean, animal cruelty as well. All right. And you can be vegan and still be bad with the environment.

For example, if I eat only regenerative, regeneratively raised, grass fed. Oh, grass fed animals, right? The way they kill them and all that stuff, alright, you gotta kill animals, fine, so if you're that against that, that's, that's one thing, but I'm not really that against killing animals, as long as it's not, as long as they live a good life, and and all that sort of stuff, right, because it is, when you think about it, it's just the way it is, like our ancestors would eat animals, and what they wouldn't eat is they wouldn't agriculture wheat.

Right?

And so the thing about that is, if I eat well raised things, now I don't like how you get all these caged chicken farms where they all live, like, a million of them in a, in a square foot or whatever. I mean, obviously that's not true, but it's pretty terrible, and that's animal cruelty, and then also they pump up full of hormones, and all that sort of stuff, right?Which makes it unhealthy. And whatever.

And so if you're, if you're a meat eater, it's not necessarily healthier if you're eating bad meat. It's only if you're eating good stuff, right? So there's that. And if you're a vegan or a vegetarian, you can eat a lot of their foods, like the main staple of a lot of vegans is soy.

And soy is terrible for the environment and that directly impacts animals as well. Because if you're destroying, you're farming all that land just to grow soy, you're using all that water just to grow soy or rice or avocados or whatever. That's taking it away from the animals, right? And then you're de-nutrifying the land a lot.

Like agriculture, the soil nowadays is terrible. Even if you're eating, like, all these vegetables, you're not necessarily getting all the nutrients because if it's, if it's on a non regenerative farm. Or even organic it's not regenerated. Also, even just because you're eating organic doesn't mean it's pesticide free, right?

If you, if you are eating organic and that organic thing has come from, let's say you live in America in the United States and you live on the East Coast and your organic oranges come from California, right? Or Georgia, right? Or, my peaches come from Georgia, right? Or, no, where are oranges coming from?

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Let's say you're eating peaches and they're coming from Georgia. I'm pretty sure oranges are coming from California. This is not a thing. I'm not, I'm not an American, so I don't know. I doubt most Americans know either. So let's say your peaches come from Georgia, but you live up north.

Just, even if they're organic, right? To get on that truck, or to get on that plane, or whatever, they gotta be sprayed, right? The FDA's not gonna let them just go raw, as far as I, like, I don't, I seriously doubt it. They're gonna be sprayed with something, so fruit flies on the way don't get to them. So they're still sprayed.

So you gotta watch out for that, that's not necessarily a, it's not necessarily healthy. Just as a back thing to that, you should always, like, wash everything Yeah, just wash everything. It doesn't matter, even if you think it's like super, super clean, just wash it. Even if you grow it in your own backyard, just wash it.

At the very least, you're gonna get some dirt and debris off it, right? Anyway, so there's that. Yeah, it's not necessarily healthier. It's not necessarily better for the environment. Now, you can do both things both ways. Like, you can definitely be a vegan and only eat... Sustainable things, right?

Like, just don't eat soy. That's a big one. Don't eat soy, don't eat rice. They're the two main ones, like, two of them don't use palm oil, right? These things are like, they're destroying Orangutans are nearly going extinct because people keep growing palm oil because people keep buying it, right? Just don't do it, right?

All these things, almost and the problem is, is that if I was just gonna eat stuff because I didn't think it was good for the environment or because of cruelty to animals or whatever, Like, there's very, very little you can eat unless you're, like, growing it yourself, or whatever. And that's just the sad truth of it.

The world we live in today, that's just how it is. You can do it, you can definitely do it depending on your lifestyle or whatever, as, like, for example, in Colombia. I've got pretty much no chance. In Colombia, where I'm living right now I don't, I don't even think I can find organic stuff, to tell you the truth.

I've looked. I can't, unless you, unless you go through a lot of trouble. And even things in the supermarket say they're organic or whatever, I don't know if, like, how true that is now, but that doesn't mean that I'm not gonna, that I'm gonna stop trying, right? Just because I don't believe it doesn't mean, like, I'll still, if I've got the choice for organic or for regenerative grass fed beef, I'm definitely gonna buy it, right? And then just do the best that you can.

So it's not an excuse to stop doing it, to stop trying, but if, because I can control my health more than I can control the environmental factors I'm gonna, I'm gonna always opt for something that's healthier for me, as opposed to, oh, no, I'm gonna sacrifice my health so much.

That I'm going to become full vegan for the animals, when in reality, maybe it's not even making much of a difference anyway because of what I'm choosing, right? But then always, of course, like I said, if I do, when I do choose fruits and vegetables and meat and stuff, I always want it to try to be regenerative or organic if I can.

Regenerative is a lot harder and organic is fairly readily available in the United States. Depending on where you live, right? And all that sort of stuff. Also, just a side note, just because you grow it yourself doesn't mean it's organic or regenerative or whatever. You gotta do it in the method that...

So one day, hopefully, I'd like to grow it all myself and I'd like to do it in a food forest kind of... regenerative way and I've got to learn about that but we'll get to that when I get there. It won't be for years and years and years.

Anyway, the last reason why I used to be a vegan vegetarian, and still a pretty valid reason, is because it's cheaper, right?

That's a pretty good reason. It was just like a, wasn't like the main reason, it was just a nice added bonus, right? It's expensive too, especially if you're going to eat grass fed beef all the time, it's like, it's not cheap. Yeah, so I understand that's definitely a factor when people are choosing stuff.

You've got to feed a family of five and you've got like, and you're not like a super rich person and you can't, feeding everyone organic, organic. Grass fed beef all the time is difficult, you know? Of course you're just gonna choose the cheaper option because you gotta, you gotta actually live, right?

You gotta be able to do stuff, like you can stress out about all this stuff and feed,use all your money to buy the best quality foods, but then you don't have money, like, to use for entertainment or whatever, and, like, and that's a... That's a burden on your stress levels and then and then that's unhealthy.

So you've got to balance it all out. So here's what I've come up with. And this is what I feel is good for me. Because I still don't like eating lots and lots of meat, right?

I still do feel that fundamentally a high, a high acidic meat diet is not the greatest. But I do understand that you do need some meat proteins in you.

And it's one of the easier ways to get protein. And if it's good meat, that's fine. So I still think I'm going to be predominantly vegetarian, but that's how I'm at a restaurant and the only vegetarian thing there is like soy, soy based. Well, I don't want that. I'd rather eat meat. I don't want soy based.

I'd rather eat good meat. I'd even, even mediocre, just store bought meat. I'd rather eat that than soy. And then yeah, so there's that. And then also, I feel like if I eat meat maximum three times a week, four at a stretch, preferably just two or three I'm happy with that. That's a good compromise for me.

Because I do feel about the environment and stuff like that, so I do want to help it out, but you just gotta do what you want to, like, what you can.

Alright, that's it for today guys, hopefully the next episode I will have the full foods thing ready, or at least ready as it can be until I've read the next updates from Dr. Peter Atea I'll update it again probably, so we'll see, we'll see what happens there. Alright guys, thanks for tuning in and I'll see you again next time, bye.